Supernatural Season 14

[Gary]

One thing I forgot to mention is that I thought it was weird that Mary couldn't defeat Nick. She's been fighting monsters for decades, and he's just a normal guy now. What was up with that?

One of Supernatural's biggest problems -- inconsistent writing.

[RJDiogenes]

I cannot argue with that.

[RJDiogenes]

It's Thursday! New episode!

[Gary]

I'm thinking Nick is somehow going to resurrect Lucifer from The Empty.

[RJDiogenes]

This was a nice episode. I had forgotten that Donatello was still alive, so it was a pleasant surprise that Cass was able to save him. I felt bad for the impaired prophet whose life degenerated into murder and suicide through no fault of his own.

But Donatello's surprising recovery helped turn the tide with Dean, who-- apparently-- has agreed to try all other options before consigning himself to the magic coffin with Michael. Sam's little drunken rant was pretty convincing, too. I'm not sure if the punch did any good.

I'm thinking Nick is somehow going to resurrect Lucifer from The Empty.

I'm not sure how it's all going to come together, but I think somehow we're going to get Angels back from the Big Empty to save Heaven and defeat Michael. Another idea that occurred to me is that Nick may end up hosting Michael, and be the one to get stuck in the magic coffin.

[Gary]

I'm thinking Nick is somehow going to resurrect Lucifer from The Empty.

I'm not sure how it's all going to come together, but I think somehow we're going to get Angels back from the Big Empty to save Heaven and defeat Michael. Another idea that occurred to me is that Nick may end up hosting Michael, and be the one to get stuck in the magic coffin.

I thought that was what would happen in this episode. I think it's a workable theory that may happen.

[RJDiogenes]

They're obviously not done with Nick....

[RJDiogenes]

New episode tonight!

[Gary]

Huh. We finally get to see John Winchester.....

[RJDiogenes]

I haven't seen it yet, but I got some spoilers from my Sister. There's one thing I'm disappointed about, but I'm still looking forward to it.

[RJDiogenes]

Well, this was a good episode and I enjoyed it a lot-- although, for a 300th episode and the return of John, it was kind of low key.

The good part, of course, is that John returned and the boys got to talk to him and say things that they never got to say in the past-- and, fortunately, they were able to include Mary in this brief reunion. I'm glad that Sam and Dean got to resolve some of their issues, and I hope this is felt in future episodes. It was great to watch them all together, and to see John learn about everything that has happened in the past fourteen years-- he just wanted to kill Yellow Eyes, but his kids have gone on to save the world and pal around with Chuck. It was good that they didn't dwell too much on the changes to the timeline or turn it into some world-ending Apocalypse-- it was just enough to let them know that John had to go back and they had to make the most of their time together, which left them more time for the character interactions that we've been waiting all these years to see. Which brings us to the less good....

The episode spent an awful lot of time on those kids for absolutely no reason at all. They didn't figure into John's story a bit. It was almost like there were two mini stories in a single episode, like an episode of Phineas and Ferb (not that I don't love Phineas and Ferb). Maybe these kids are going to be showing up in future episodes, but I would have preferred that this entire story dwell on John being back with his wife and kids.

The other thing that disappointed me a bit is that the John they met was plucked from the past. I was hoping to find out where John disappeared to and why he wasn't found in Heaven. In fact, I was hoping for kind of a big revelation there, maybe one that figured into the Michael plotline. Well, who knows, maybe we will still find out someday that John went to the Big Empty or, better yet, some other special place reserved for the best of the best.

And I wonder if this episode might not have some other repercussions further down the road. The fact that John remembered his time trip as a dream was kind of sweet-- but what if he considered the possibility that it was more than a dream and took some sort of action as a result, something that will make itself known when Sam and Dean try to find a way around Billie's one and only solution to the Michael Crisis.

[Gary]

Well, this was a good episode and I enjoyed it a lot-- although, for a 300th episode and the return of John, it was kind of low key.

The good part, of course, is that John returned and the boys got to talk to him and say things that they never got to say in the past-- and, fortunately, they were able to include Mary in this brief reunion. I'm glad that Sam and Dean got to resolve some of their issues, and I hope this is felt in future episodes. It was great to watch them all together, and to see John learn about everything that has happened in the past fourteen years-- he just wanted to kill Yellow Eyes, but his kids have gone on to save the world and pal around with Chuck. It was good that they didn't dwell too much on the changes to the timeline or turn it into some world-ending Apocalypse-- it was just enough to let them know that John had to go back and they had to make the most of their time together, which left them more time for the character interactions that we've been waiting all these years to see. Which brings us to the less good....

The episode spent an awful lot of time on those kids for absolutely no reason at all. They didn't figure into John's story a bit. It was almost like there were two mini stories in a single episode, like an episode of Phineas and Ferb (not that I don't love Phineas and Ferb). Maybe these kids are going to be showing up in future episodes, but I would have preferred that this entire story dwell on John being back with his wife and kids.

The other thing that disappointed me a bit is that the John they met was plucked from the past. I was hoping to find out where John disappeared to and why he wasn't found in Heaven. In fact, I was hoping for kind of a big revelation there, maybe one that figured into the Michael plotline. Well, who knows, maybe we will still find out someday that John went to the Big Empty or, better yet, some other special place reserved for the best of the best.

And I wonder if this episode might not have some other repercussions further down the road. The fact that John remembered his time trip as a dream was kind of sweet-- but what if he considered the possibility that it was more than a dream and took some sort of action as a result, something that will make itself known when Sam and Dean try to find a way around Billie's one and only solution to the Michael Crisis.

Once again, you've summed up what has been rolling around in my brain. I've never been good at written summarizations because my brain goes all over the place and the words don't make it to the keyboard (or paper). Where in the universe is John Winchester??? Also, will Michael eventually escape? Are there more consequences for Sam's, Dean's, and Castiel's actions?

[RJDiogenes]

Where in the universe is John Winchester???

Where in the universe indeed? You'd think this would be a bigger deal. Maybe Castiel knows something that he's not telling.

Also, will Michael eventually escape? Are there more consequences for Sam's, Dean's, and Castiel's actions?

I'm pretty sure that the Michael and Nick storylines are going to come together, but I'm not as sure about Heaven and the Big Empty. They haven't touched on the crisis of Heaven falling apart in a while, but the only solution that I can think of is bringing back Angels from the Big Empty. Maybe they'll get to trade Michael for a host of regular Angels or something.

[RJDiogenes]

No more Supernatural until March 7th.

[Gary]

No more Supernatural until March 7th.