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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by RJDiogenes » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:28 pm

The countdown begins....
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by Gary » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:39 am

I watched these trailers on my phone and need to watch them on a large screen now. People have pointed out all kinds of details in the trailers that I couldn't make out on the tiny screen.

Either way, I'll be signing up for CBS to watch both this and Discovery's second season.
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Post by RJDiogenes » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:52 am

Yeah, there's a couple of YouTube videos pointing out all the hidden details, but I haven't watched them yet.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

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Post by RJDiogenes » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:44 pm

He does look great. I was sick to death of the Borg long before Voyager ran them into the ground, but it seems like the Picard series has something interesting in store for them.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by scottydog » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:04 am

Good old Hugh. I can't wait to see the debut episode of this series! :thumbsup:

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Post by RJDiogenes » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:30 am

^^ Less than a month away!

And here's a new teeny tiny trailer:

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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by Lupine » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:15 pm

It certainly looks promising. We'll see.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by Gary » Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:55 pm

Jonathan Frakes looks like a grizzled, whacked out survivalist.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by scottydog » Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:18 am

Gary wrote:
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Jonathan Frakes looks like a grizzled, whacked out survivalist.
Well, yes. :lol:
I prefer this look of Frakes. On TNG, 30 years ago, he looked too much like a perfect mannequin. His acting was even mannequinish. The whacked out look becomes him.

Seems like all the scenes involve Picard just narrating and reflecting. Other actors are doing all the action. Maybe this is what to expect from a show starring an 80-year-old.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

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Gary wrote:
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Jonathan Frakes looks like a grizzled, whacked out survivalist.
Well, he's Alaskan. :lol:
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Seems like all the scenes involve Picard just narrating and reflecting. Other actors are doing all the action. Maybe this is what to expect from a show starring an 80-year-old.
I'm hoping the show isn't really as action packed as the trailers would imply.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by Lupine » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:51 pm

A commentary on Picard that kind of sums up my thoughts on what I've heard about the series recently.
I'm hoping that it won't be as dire as that, considering that I have been thinking about subscribing.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by RJDiogenes » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:33 am

Yeah, the "short Trek" prologue is out, apparently, and I've heard some things that worry me. It looks like the crippling event in Picard's past is a massive attack on Mars, not a Romulan nova, which is both good and bad-- I really don't want to see yet another September 11th analogy with millions of people dead. And I don't really want to see a "populist" Federation. It's also implied that the one of the conflicts of the series is that the Federation has created a population of Soong androids as slaves, and they are rebelling. That would be a deal breaker for me, as far as considering this show part of real Trek.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by scottydog » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:35 am

Lupine wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:51 pm
A commentary on Picard that kind of sums up my thoughts on what I've heard about the series recently.
I'm hoping that it won't be as dire as that, considering that I have been thinking about subscribing.
Fascinating. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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And I don't really want to see a "populist" Federation.
Neither do I. I watch Star Trek to escape reality, not to re-experience it.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by Gary » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:05 am

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Yeah, the "short Trek" prologue is out, apparently, and I've heard some things that worry me. It looks like the crippling event in Picard's past is a massive attack on Mars, not a Romulan nova, which is both good and bad-- I really don't want to see yet another September 11th analogy with millions of people dead. And I don't really want to see a "populist" Federation. It's also implied that the one of the conflicts of the series is that the Federation has created a population of Soong androids as slaves, and they are rebelling. That would be a deal breaker for me, as far as considering this show part of real Trek.
Actually, I think that's *exactly* what you will see. It may be in the links posted earlier in this thread, but I do recall reading that the show will be similar to ToS in that it draws inspiration from the current political environment. Remember, in ToS the premise mirrored the US vs the Soviet Union. I'm firmly in the camp that Deep Space 9 was the best Trek because it was the most realistic. Was the Federation a paradise? Sure, but at an ugly cost no one wanted to admit. After a while, the facade crumbles and the blunt realities of life appear. That's what I bet happens with Picard. Start Trek: Enterprise explored it in the third season.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by Lupine » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:49 pm

^I'm OK with some of that as long as they don't go overboard and turn the Federation into a generic dystopia. Shows can be political without beating you over the head with it.
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And I don't really want to see a "populist" Federation.
Neither do I. I watch Star Trek to escape reality, not to re-experience it.
One comment I read said that if they wanted to be depressed they'd watch the news.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by RJDiogenes » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:46 pm

When they're commenting on current political or social ills, it's best to do it as an analogy using an alien species or some rogue group. Enterprise was fine because it was a hundred years before TOS and DS9 took it about as far as I want it to go, and maybe a little overboard here and there. If Picard is anything like Discovery, it won't interest me.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by Lupine » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:24 pm

Yeah my interest has flagged a bit.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by scottydog » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:38 pm

Lupine wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:24 pm
Yeah my interest has flagged a bit.
If ST: Picard, doesn't work out, let's lobby for ST: Zippy -- the story of a rogue, law-defying ship, shaped like a motorcycle.

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Post by Lupine » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:51 pm

^ :lol:
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by Gary » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:46 pm

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Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:46 pm
When they're commenting on current political or social ills, it's best to do it as an analogy using an alien species or some rogue group. Enterprise was fine because it was a hundred years before TOS and DS9 took it about as far as I want it to go, and maybe a little overboard here and there. If Picard is anything like Discovery, it won't interest me.
Audiences seemed to really like Discovery's interpretation of Captain Pike, plus Season 2 is said to have been much better than Season 1. The main problem has been how the rights had been broken up. After 13 Years Of Rights Issues, Star Trek Is Whole Again

As far as it being a dystopian future -- I'd say that's not the case. I think it won't be as happy and positive as ToS, but then, contrary to the rose colored glasses boomers have, ToS was pretty bad and people gloss over the inconsistencies (think Spock). I don't think it will be dark, but it may not be as positive and warm as TNG. Consider the evolution of the ships where the Galaxy Class were centered around families and a comfortable lifestyle, whereas the Federation went to the Sovereign Class due to the threats presented by the Borg and others.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by RJDiogenes » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:27 pm

I don't mind politics or conflict, of course, but I don't like that they went in the direction of always being at war with a Big Bad, like the Borg or the Dominion or the Whatevers. I like the approach of exploring strange new worlds and finding them populated with metaphors. Star Trek should not worry about being realistic-- unfortunately, faux realism is the trend these days.
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Lupine wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:51 pm
^ :lol:
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Post by RJDiogenes » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:34 am

I think tonight's the night. Or tomorrow's the day. Anyway, it's just about here.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (aka ST:P)

Post by scottydog » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:18 am

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