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2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by Lupine » Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:55 pm

A new thread in anticipation of the political wonders before us.
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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by scottydog » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:32 am

Many of my liberal friends are divided, sometimes heatedly, about which Dem candidate to support. My feeling is that I don't really care which Dem candidate is nominated -- any one of them is a 1,000 percent improvement over what we have now.

I do worry that Biden and Sanders are past their expiration date.

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by Lupine » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:54 pm

I worry about their ages too. With his heart condition I'm sure that Sanders, if elected, would probably die in office. :no: Our best hope is that they pick good VP candidates.

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by RJDiogenes » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:35 am

Taking all of the most likely outcomes into consideration, there's a very high likelihood that the next president will die in office-- the first time such a thing has happened since 1963. This is one of the reasons I respect Biden. He didn't really want to run and only got into the race because of the need for someone who could soundly defeat The Donald. He's essentially sacrificing his life for his country.
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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by scottydog » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:09 am

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Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:54 pm
I worry about their ages too. With his heart condition I'm sure that Sanders, if elected, would probably die in office. :no: Our best hope is that they pick good VP candidates.
You're right. The VPs will be very important, which is why Pence concerns me so much. :no:
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He's essentially sacrificing his life for his country.
Isn't Biden's health better than Bernie's? I'd like to think he'd survive four years in office.

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by Gary » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:28 pm

scottydog wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:09 am
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Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:54 pm
I worry about their ages too. With his heart condition I'm sure that Sanders, if elected, would probably die in office. :no: Our best hope is that they pick good VP candidates.
You're right. The VPs will be very important, which is why Pence concerns me so much. :no:
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He's essentially sacrificing his life for his country.
Isn't Biden's health better than Bernie's? I'd like to think he'd survive four years in office.
Sorry, but Joe Biden is NOT there mentally.

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by Lupine » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:51 pm

Gary wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:28 pm
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:09 am
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Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:54 pm
I worry about their ages too. With his heart condition I'm sure that Sanders, if elected, would probably die in office. :no: Our best hope is that they pick good VP candidates.
You're right. The VPs will be very important, which is why Pence concerns me so much. :no:
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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by scottydog » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:24 pm

Gary wrote:
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Sorry, but Joe Biden is NOT there mentally.
I don't think he's ever been there mentally or emotionally. He's not my 1st or 2nd Dem choice but I'd still vote for him.

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

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Isn't Biden's health better than Bernie's? I'd like to think he'd survive four years in office.
Biden is probably technically fitter than Bernie, although Bernie seems to have bounced back from his little cardiac event pretty well. But have you ever seen before and after pictures of American presidents? The job is debilitating. I think either Biden or Bernie, and even Warren, are likely to not make it out the other end. Even The Donald, who is untouched by the stresses of reality, may not survive a second term.
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We're living in tough times. :lol:
Sorry, but Joe Biden is NOT there mentally.
I don't see any reason to question his abilities. In any case, he can sit in the Rose Garden and play chess with Bernie for all I care, as long as he wins. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by scottydog » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:39 pm

I thought Biden was in over his head as a Vice President. But as I've said, I'd still vote for him if he's the nominee.

You're right about Trump being unburdened by reality :lol:

If Trump wins in 2020, I predict Mayor Pete will be President in 2024. And his hair will be completely white by 2028 :lol:

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by Gary » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:40 pm

RJDiogenes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:34 pm
Gary wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:28 pm
Sorry, but Joe Biden is NOT there mentally.
I don't see any reason to question his abilities. In any case, he can sit in the Rose Garden and play chess with Bernie for all I care, as long as he wins. :lol:
I do. He's a bit of a creep with his insistence on being touchy with females, plus his verbals gaffs are on par or even worse than W's. Sorry, but Joe needs to be put to pasture. It's NOT his turn. A centrist candidate is a sure fire way to ensure Trump is re-elected.
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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by scottydog » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:52 pm

Gary wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:40 pm
A centrist candidate is a sure fire way to ensure Trump is re-elected.
I've heard the same argument from others whom I respect. It seems counterintuitive, but if Trumpsters are looking for a maverick, a rebel who will blow up the rigged system, then they may switch their votes from Trump to a Sanders.

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by Gary » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:06 am

OK, I've not been too motivated to discuss politics because, quite frankly, we have an administration filled with "that crazy uncle", "annoying idiot cousin", and "conspiracy minded nutbag from work" who all think they know how to "...get the country on the right track." Trump's assassination of an Iranian General, on sovereign soil, along with the lame (and delayed) debriefing of members of Congress, may not bode well for the upcoming impeachment trial. Republicans are not liking how the Administration is giving vague "facts" as to why he was a threat, not to mention the pulled-out-of-someone's-ass interpretation of Article II from the Constitution in regard's to the President's war powers.
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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by Lupine » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:59 pm

^Yeah it's been such a mess it's hard to know where to start with it. Trump acting like a lunatic, the Administration acting in brazenly unconstitutional ways, Republicans furrowing their brows in concern but ultimately towing the line, Democrats trying to form a circular firing squad, ect.

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I think apes would be doing a better job at this point. :gorilla:

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by Gary » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:58 pm

Iraq has voted to expel US troops. Whether they'll actually be kicked out is far from clear

Good for them. It's about time the US has received push back from the rest of the world. The USSR collapsed while I was on active duty and, what bothered me about reading the news at that time, was the US felt it needed to step up and be the world's policeman. That sure hasn't turned out well, plus we've turned into an imperialist country. Perhaps a benefit of having Trump elected to office is his assembling (and I use that term loosely) an inept administration which has bungled foreign policy to such a degree that the Middle East, Europe, et al., are starting to depend less on the US and also not listen. Again, good for them and there needs to be more of it.
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I don't know about that. I trust the rest of the world to run things even less than I trust the US. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by scottydog » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:37 am

True. An impeachment and Dem candidates not showing as much unity as I wish they would. Whatever happened to having a common enemy bringing people together?

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Post by Lupine » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:55 pm

And to add to that there's reportedly going to be some kind of far-right rally in Richmond this Monday. Scotty may want to avoid downtown. :peekaboo:

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Re: 2020 Politics: On the Hill of Megiddo

Post by scottydog » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:29 am

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And to add to that there's reportedly going to be some kind of far-right rally in Richmond this Monday. Scotty may want to avoid downtown. :peekaboo:
Yeah, many of us are worried about the alt-right armed militia and nazis showing up at our state capital here in Richmond on Monday. Let's hope nothing bad happens. We live in strange times indeed :no:

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