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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:49 pm

A rather heady article on Neanderthal cloning. My take: I would be against it. Not because I oppose cloning (I don't) nor do I think that cloning a Neandethal would somehow be "arrogant" (that doesn't even make sense). My concern would be for the child conceived. What kind of life would he or she be expected to have? Would they ever be allowed to leave and lead a normal life? Get a job? Have a family? Modern humans seem to have a real problem acknowledging or even conceiving that other members of Homo wouldn't be that different from them, if at all. Would this individual face discrimination?

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Post by RJDiogenes » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:46 am

I imagine this person would live a pretty sheltered life, but it certainly does raise some questions. Like who has custody? It's unclear whether a Neandertal would have the capacity to live as an independent adult. If not, what happens? But it also raises the question of whether it's ethical to stop someone from cloning a Neandertal. Would it be interfering with someone's reproductive rights to stop them? Very strange. I wonder if it will ever actually happen.
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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:16 am

That is an interesting counterpoint about the reproductive cloning. I'm pretty sure though that a Neanderthal would be capable of living as an independent adult as they weren't all that different than moderns. It is a thorny issue. :conf:

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Post by RJDiogenes » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:53 pm

They seem to be very similar, but we couldn't really be sure until we met one. Even subtle differences in cognition or communication could make a huge difference. Of course, there is a wide range of differences in modern Humans, too. Another interesting question is: What if instead of cloning a Neanderthal, somebody cloned a hundred Neanderthals?
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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:10 pm

^Actually I think that was the subject of a novel as well. :book:

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Interesting. Do you remember anything about it?
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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:21 pm

I think it was titled "The Ugly Little Boy", I'll have to look it up. I've never read it but came across mention of it in books and articles mentioning how Neanderthals are depicted in fiction.

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Post by RJDiogenes » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:37 pm

That sounds familiar. I think it was somebody collaborating with Asimov. I remember it, but I never read it. I didn't realize it was about bringing back Neanderthals.
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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:45 pm

This ant defends herself with VENOMOUS BUTT FOAM!!!!!.

Not really a major discovery. I just needed to use the phrase "Venomous Butt Foam!" in a sentence today.

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Post by RJDiogenes » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:50 am

Not to mention "Venomous Butt Silly String." Bugs have no social decorum.

This reminds me of an article I saw recently on venomous bugs that explode to spread the venom and defend the nest. I'll have to see if I can find it.
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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:29 pm

Better than starvation I suppose. I wish the article was a little more specific on what chemicals were being used- and where these chemicals are coming from.

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Post by RJDiogenes » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:38 pm

Makes me think of The Jetsons. Unfortunately, if the population continues to rise, there may be no choice.

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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:00 pm

^Wild stuff. Toxic spit mixing with crystal "backpacks". I'm surprised no one at Skiffy tried turning this into a movie yet.

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Not while there are giant shark stories yet untold. :lol:
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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:19 am

True, we could have exploding giant sharks! :lol:

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Post by RJDiogenes » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:18 am

That's a good one. There was actually a movie back in the 70s about exploding dolphins. I think it was called Day of the Dolphin.

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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:05 pm

Curiosity has landed on Mars! :dance: :dance: :dance:

I watched this live on CNN last night as if happened. I was hoping to see it on NASA TV but apparently DirecTV only offers it in hi def these days :no: . But luckily CNN devoted almost an entire hour to the landing. I was amazed to see pics coming back right after the landing. I was only hoping for a signal that it had arrived safely. Great accomplishment. :yes:

EDIT: And this has to be the pic of the year. :eek:

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Post by RJDiogenes » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:25 pm

^^ That's a fantastic picture.

I didn't get to see it live. For some reason, I thought it was coming down today so I was a little surprised to see that it had already landed this morning. I was very relieved, though. Mars has a habit of eating visitors. In acknowledgement of that, this was apparently posted on the NASA website:

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I also love that Tweet from Curiosity. :lol:

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Actually, it looks like some amazing pictures are rolling in already.
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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:24 pm

The surface here is quite different from the other landing sites. It looks almost like dry lake bottom. :unsure:

And here's a good comic on the subject.

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Post by RJDiogenes » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:46 pm

Lupine wrote:The surface here is quite different from the other landing sites. It looks almost like dry lake bottom. :unsure:
From what I've read, they chose a deep crater as a landing site because it's most likely to have been underwater in the distant past, so that's a good sign.
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Post by RJDiogenes » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:54 pm

NASA has published a 360-degree panorama of Curiosity's landing site. The hills beckon!
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Re: Science Tidbits 3

Post by Lupine » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:51 pm

^Some of those hills look a lot like the Ord Mountains just north of my house! :veryhappy:

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The white mice sometimes re-use their meshes. :D
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