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Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:14 am
Two people can agree that these are the criteria for heroism, yet they may not agree on who meets the criteria. One of them may think Trump is a hero while the other may think the opposite.

How might this be related to the culture wars raging right now?
Well, for one thing, not everyone agrees on the definition of hero; and, for another, not everyone agrees on the definition of good. I don't know if any of this has anything to do with the current Culture War, though, because it's basically just being orchestrated for profit at this point.

Do you think anything of the Culture War, as portrayed in social media, reflects the truth of society?
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I think the Culture Wars reflect not the truth of society but a truth about the primitive reptilian human brain. We know that evolution designed us to be tribal to some extent, as some degree of tribalism helped early humans survive. As you said, the relentless drive for monetary profit is exploiting and exacerbating our tribalistic tendencies. And everyone loses.

What if anything can be done to reduce the monetization of disinformation and cultural warfare?
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scottydog wrote:
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I think the Culture Wars reflect not the truth of society but a truth about the primitive reptilian human brain. We know that evolution designed us to be tribal to some extent, as some degree of tribalism helped early humans survive. As you said, the relentless drive for monetary profit is exploiting and exacerbating our tribalistic tendencies. And everyone loses.
Exactly. It's like the Fight-or-Flight Syndrome. Instinct versus Civilization.
What if anything can be done to reduce the monetization of disinformation and cultural warfare?
Good question. The problem is that people want to be exploited. The only thing that can be done is to cultivate both reason and compassion-- peace and love.

Have any studies ever been done on how to get people to recognize their own radicalization?
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That's a good question.

A 2017 documentary, White Right: Meeting the Enemy, describes radicalization, its causes, and its cures.

And then I remember that in 2017 you blogged about Daryl Davis's extraordinary feat of meeting KKK members and getting them to change their racist ways.. This remains one of my favorite hero essays on my blog :yes:

I agree that the solution is compassion, empathy, and kindness. How can our society do a better job of cultivating those traits?
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Thank you. She's definitely got the right idea, same as Daryl Davis. Understanding and civilized discourse are the only definitive solutions. People screaming at each other from other sides of the street does nothing. It's too bad that's not on DVD.
I agree that the solution is compassion, empathy, and kindness. How can our society do a better job of cultivating those traits?
By savagely beating it into people. :lol:

On an individual level, by not giving in to peer pressure to promote divisive memes and behaviors. We have to be like Daryl Davis and Deeya Khan, no matter how much outrage there is from the Wokies. On a wider level, through the media, there has to be a greater Liberal presence to discourage radicalization and promote harmony. We need Hippies! :cooldude:

Did you read that book by George Will from the Anderson Cooper video?
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Ahh, thanks for reminding me. I do want to order it. Will's story about his Downs Syndrome son was amazing. Does the fact that his son never encountered cruelty give you hope for humanity?
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Ahh, thanks for reminding me. I do want to order it.
It's a collection of his essays, so it comes in easily digestible bites.
Will's story about his Downs Syndrome son was amazing. Does the fact that his son never encountered cruelty give you hope for humanity?
Most people are decent at the core, but, like any animal, will strike back if threatened or abused.

What do you think the odds are of passing a Constitutional Amendment removing the Electoral College and instituting ranked voting?
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What do you think the odds are of passing a Constitutional Amendment removing the Electoral College and instituting ranked voting?
About the same as me being elected President. People are incredibly resistant to change, even when change makes sense. Gun control is a classic example. I think that will happen eventually but I'm not holding my breath.

What do you suppose has to happen for our country to remove the EC and to institute ranked voting? I'm thinking it has to start happening locally or at the state level first, and not just one states but many states.
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What do you suppose has to happen for our country to remove the EC and to institute ranked voting? I'm thinking it has to start happening locally or at the state level first, and not just one states but many states.
It would definitely need to start at the local level. An Amendment to take away the power of the two major parties is the one thing guaranteed to bring the parties together-- in opposition. One way to propose an Amendment is for two-thirds (I think) of the States to call a Constitutional Convention-- it's never happened that way, but I think it would be the only option in this case. But we probably need ranked voting to become more familiar on the local level before that can happen, and we're still a ways from reaching that level. A ranked-voting law recently failed to pass in Massachusetts of all places.

If I create an online petition for such an Amendment, would you sign it? :lol:
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Yes, absolutely. Two men can change the world! :curses:

I just received George Will's new book -- one day shipping from Amazon :yes: So now I have about 20 unread books in my pile :lol:

How many unread books do you have?
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:08 pm
How many unread books do you have?
Hundreds. I'm a compulsive book buyer. :lol:

Here's the draft of my proposed Amendment:
Section 1. Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, and Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 of the Constitution of the United States shall hereby be annulled, and other Articles and Amendments modified accordingly.

Section 2. The offices of President and Vice President of the United States shall be elected by popular vote via a ranked ballot on which voters shall designate their preferred choices from first to last. Votes shall be tabulated such that lesser-ranked candidates be eliminated until one candidate with a majority remains. Ranking of less than the full list of candidates, or adding candidates not listed, shall not be construed as to disqualify the ballot.

Section 3. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Section 4. This amendment shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
Do you have any suggestions?
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Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:56 pm
scottydog wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:08 pm
How many unread books do you have?
Hundreds. I'm a compulsive book buyer. :lol:
Hundreds? Will you attempt to read them now that you're retired? Or have you given up any hope of reading them?
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Section 2. The offices of President and Vice President of the United States shall be elected by popular vote via a ranked ballot on which voters shall designate their preferred choices from first to last. Votes shall be tabulated such that lesser-ranked candidates be eliminated until one candidate with a majority remains. Ranking of less than the full list of candidates, or adding candidates not listed, shall not be construed as to disqualify the ballot.

Section 3. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Section 4. This amendment shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.

Do you have any suggestions?
Yes, as follows:

Section 5. All candidates for President shall undergo a thorough psychiatric evaluation within three months of the election, and only candidates deemed free of any diagnosed personality disorders shall remain on the ballot.

Does that seem reasonable and feasible?
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Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:18 pm
Hundreds? Will you attempt to read them now that you're retired? Or have you given up any hope of reading them?
I hope to read many of them, but I doubt if it's possible to read all of them if I intend to do a lot of writing and stuff. But being surrounded by books is my Comfort Zone.
Does that seem reasonable and feasible?
Reasonable? Yes. Feasible? No. It would become just another thing for people to waste time on. Everybody would be hiring pillow manufacturers to diagnose their opponents. :lol: Mental health is too subjective and the politerazzi too delusional. In any case, the only qualifications for the presidency have always been only age and natural-born citizenship, and I'm fine with that (I might even be okay with eliminating the natural-born part).

How would you feel about dropping the natural-born requirement and raising the age qualification to 50?
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Well, I think Trump is proof that age doesn't guarantee competence. So the age 35 minimum is fine with me. Someone like Arnold Schwarzenegar might actually make a good president, but I have no strong opinion about the nativism requirement.

The GOP is making a huge deal about Biden's so-called dementia, which could be a real concern for an older president with fading mental faculties. That's why I'd be okay with a psychological check-up, which might disqualify both Trump and Biden, and may have also disqualified Nixon (narcissistic personality disorder) and Reagan (Alzheimer's).

At the same time, the slippery subjectivity of assessing mental health leaves room for such diagnoses to be abused and misused. So who knows :shrug:

Didn't Woodrow Wilson's wife run the country for a while during his rehab from his stroke?
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scottydog wrote:
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Well, I think Trump is proof that age doesn't guarantee competence. So the age 35 minimum is fine with me.
The problem with that is that 35 used to be middle aged. As life expectancies have increased, childhood has become longer. Now that people are routinely living into their 90s, they are also not really maturing until they're in their 30s. Maybe the threshold for the presidency should be 2/3 of the average life expectancy from the most recent census.
The GOP is making a huge deal about Biden's so-called dementia, which could be a real concern for an older president with fading mental faculties. That's why I'd be okay with a psychological check-up, which might disqualify both Trump and Biden, and may have also disqualified Nixon (narcissistic personality disorder) and Reagan (Alzheimer's).
Too much potential for abuse in profiling. Besides, some of our best presidents have been crazy. George Washington took on the British Empire. How crazy was that?
Didn't Woodrow Wilson's wife run the country for a while during his rehab from his stroke?
Yes, for the rest of his term, until he understandably lost the next election.

Can you envision a scenario where you would vote for a candidate with a known mental disorder?
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