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Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:51 pm
by RJDiogenes
But don't parents co-exist with children, and progenitor species co-exist with progeny species?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:08 am
by scottydog
True, but 200 years from now, when you should be dead, your robotic self would be contaminating your descendants with your antiquated views.

Did I just insult you? :lol:

You know what I mean, I hope. Your views are NOT antiquated, by today's standards. But in 200 years they will be. Don't they need to go away? :lol:

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:09 pm
by RJDiogenes
Doesn't that presume constant progress? Aren't the beliefs of the current generation destructive and in need of correction?

More importantly, are my 21st-century views enough to sentence me to death?!?!

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:17 am
by scottydog
:lol:

Not a death sentence, just a general truth that old ideas need to give way to new ones.

Progress is definitely not constant. Why do you suppose it zigs and zags?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:47 pm
by RJDiogenes
Don't people generally blunder around nearsightedly in the darkness of the universe?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:11 am
by scottydog
But if people blunder, how has the human race not gone extinct by now?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:06 pm
by RJDiogenes
Well, random blundering would lead to success 50% of the time, so if humans have just a bit of intelligence, wouldn't that raise them above the minimum threshold for survival?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:16 pm
by scottydog
So you're saying we have barely enough intelligence to (slightly) more than compensate for our chronic blundering?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:50 pm
by RJDiogenes
Would that explain both human history and the range of intelligence in the species? :lol:

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:51 pm
by scottydog
Yes :lol:

But it also has me thinking that there MUST be some alien species who are far, far smarter than their blundering -- at least compared to humans. Would you agree?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:54 pm
by RJDiogenes
What if Humanity is the smartest of all intelligent life forms in the Universe?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:22 am
by scottydog
If true, could that explain the Fermi Paradox?

Wouldn't you be a bit disappointed if there weren't alien species far smarter than we are? Or would too much of an intelligence gap bring in the possibility that they'd view as as expendable? (I'm thinking of To Serve Man, of course :lol:)

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:33 pm
by RJDiogenes
Doesn't it seem unlikely that more intelligent aliens would be that unsympathetic? Did you ever read Condescension of the Starlings?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:07 am
by scottydog
One would think that intelligence and enlightenment would be correlated. Perhaps they are, but I doubt it's a perfect correlation.

I really enjoyed reading Condescension of the Starlings -- well done :yes:

Have you published it anywhere?

Re: Questions Only VI: How Much Is Too Much?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:09 pm
by RJDiogenes
Thank you. I've shopped it around a little, but no takers yet.

Do you think the biology of an alien species can affect what is ethical for them?