Gary wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:36 pm
Why? You've stated before that Trump should be pardoned for his involvement in the 1/6 insurrection, and I disagree. I think Ford set a bad precendent by pardoning Nixon for his involvement in Watergate.
Ford did set a bad precedent-- by giving Nixon a blanket pardon for unspecific crimes before he was charged or convicted.
US Presidents have been treated a gods in the 20th Centuty, and I think that's nonsense.
By their own parties, maybe, but that's just another reason not to have parties. Aside from ReNext parties.
They are not above the law and therefore should expect to receive consequences for their actions. Why have laws if we don't enforce them, i.e. the 14th Amendment? Trump openly flouted the Rule of Law and demands/demanded he be reinstated as President.
Of course we should enforce the law. That's exactly what I'm saying. Blacklisting or Canceling or Cold-Shouldering or whatever it's being called this week is not the law. It's McCarthyism.
You need to supply more than just "it's silly" for a reasonable argument.
That wasn't the argument, that was the opinion-- the argument was that he hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime (i.e., enforcing the law). There has to be due process, not just a bunch of politicians who will say anything to make themselves look good to their constituents. I don't care if they're Right or Left or Up or Down or 3 Degrees to Starboard.
Here's what should happen:
1. Comrade Donald should be charged with sedition.
2. Comrade Donald should be convicted of sedition, rendering him ineligible to hold office and subject to an appropriate prison sentence.
3. Biden should then pardon him, on the premise that he has been granted due process and found guilty by a jury of his peers, as is the American way, and should now be released to his own custody because America should never be seen to imprison former leaders for political crimes.
4. This would not make him eligible to hold office again, or prevent him from being charged under State laws, or protect him from civil suits.
Looking at the big picture and the long haul, this is the best possible outcome.
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